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Steven Seagal: 3 golden rules

Started by zombie no.one, May 09, 2023, 09:37:47 PM

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I've recently gone back and watched all of Steven Seagal's early films (most of which I'd seen, others like OUT FOR JUSTICE and ON DEADLY GROUND which I hadn't), and I'm left wondering if he must've had the following 3 rules written into his contract, which may have looked like this:

(1) BAD GUY SELF-OWNAGE
During any mass brawl, Seagal will manage to somehow make bad guys either hurt themselves, or hurt each other by mistake. Seagal makes the bad guys do half the work for him

(2) CAN'T SHOOT, WON'T SHOOT
In any one-on-one stand off involving Seagal and a bad guy, if the bad guy decides to pull a gun on Seagal they will instantly be hit with total brain-freeze, leaving them incapable of functioning on any level, nevermind pulling the trigger... Seagal will then calmly walk up and disarm them. (this rule must also happen multiple times per film)

(3) STRANGER IN TOWN
Bad guys and Seagal's fellow good guys alike must have absolutely no idea where he's come from, and must gossip to each other in hushed tones about what a mysterious badass he is.

If I notice any other rules I may add them but these stick out... :smile:

Trevor

#1
He made Mercenary For Justice here and I talked with one of his fellow actors in that: he told me that Seagal needed a stunt double to throw a punch in one scene.  :buggedout:

Fourth golden rule: invent a new martial arts style like slappee snotee every time you face a new opponent.  :wink:
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

zombie no.one

Quote from: Trevor on May 10, 2023, 01:54:04 AM
He made Mercenary For Justice here and I talked with one of his fellow actors in that: he told me that Seagal needed a stunt double to throw a punch in one scene.  :buggedout:

Fourth golden rule: invent a new martial arts style like slappee snotee every time you face a new opponent.  :wink:

Haha, some of his 'moves' do actually look like something I last saw in my primary school playground

Trevor

Quote from: zombie no.one on May 10, 2023, 06:27:19 AM
Quote from: Trevor on May 10, 2023, 01:54:04 AM
He made Mercenary For Justice here and I talked with one of his fellow actors in that: he told me that Seagal needed a stunt double to throw a punch in one scene.  :buggedout:

Fourth golden rule: invent a new martial arts style like slappee snotee every time you face a new opponent.  :wink:

Haha, some of his 'moves' do actually look like something I last saw in my primary school playground

:teddyr: :teddyr:

The bathroom assault scene in that film is hilarious: the person with the pistol is the actor who told me about SS needing a stunt double. Just by the way, the word 'poophole' means 'a-hole'  :buggedout: :wink: :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg_oKnEmd1w
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

zombie no.one

Quote from: Trevor on May 10, 2023, 07:33:16 AM

The bathroom assault scene in that film is hilarious: the person with the pistol is the actor who told me about SS needing a stunt double. Just by the way, the word 'poophole' means 'a-hole'  :buggedout: :wink: :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg_oKnEmd1w

There you go, Rule (2) in that very clip. Gun pulled on Seagal on a one-on-one, but for whatever reason bad guy is incapable of pulling the trigger, then Seagal disarms him :)

Very cool that you have a Seagal anecdote!

LilCerberus

Quote from: Trevor on May 10, 2023, 07:33:16 AM
Quote from: zombie no.one on May 10, 2023, 06:27:19 AM
Quote from: Trevor on May 10, 2023, 01:54:04 AM
He made Mercenary For Justice here and I talked with one of his fellow actors in that: he told me that Seagal needed a stunt double to throw a punch in one scene.  :buggedout:

Fourth golden rule: invent a new martial arts style like slappee snotee every time you face a new opponent.  :wink:

Haha, some of his 'moves' do actually look like something I last saw in my primary school playground

:teddyr: :teddyr:

The bathroom assault scene in that film is hilarious: the person with the pistol is the actor who told me about SS needing a stunt double. Just by the way, the word 'poophole' means 'a-hole'  :buggedout: :wink: :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg_oKnEmd1w

Fake Urinals?
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Trevor

Quote from: LilCerberus on May 10, 2023, 10:34:48 AM
Fake Urinals?

Indeed: the producers of that were chased out of SA by a long line of angry creditors back in the 1990s: they skimped on everything like paying their casts and crews and paying for set design.  :buggedout:
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

Trevor

Quote from: zombie no.one on May 10, 2023, 10:21:38 AM
Very cool that you have a Seagal anecdote!

Thanks: mine's not as good as the one about him going poopie in his pants but it will do.  :buggedout: :wink: :wink:
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

chainsaw midget

5th rule.  Seagal can't be hurt and doesn't fight anyone tougher than he is. 

I watched a video examining different movie fight styles, (which I can't find now) and they pointed out something interesting about Seagal. 

He doesn't get outmatched and he doesn't get hurt.  When he fights somebody, he kicks their ass easily.

Most action heroes will get slapped around for a while, get the crap kicked out of them by a superior opponent, and then come back for the win.  Not Stevie. 

zombie no.one

^ true... there's never really any 'fighting', it's just the Stevie show. dispenses of any opponent with ease. this didn't even occur to me

Alex

I thought that the biggest weakness of Under Siege is that Tommy Lee Jones doesn't land a single hit on Seagal. Kind of makes him a weak villain and not really a threat.
Hail to thyself
For I am my own master
I am my own god
I require no shepherd
For I am no sheep.

Trevor

Quote from: Alex on May 10, 2023, 04:19:48 PM
I thought that the biggest weakness of Under Siege is that Tommy Lee Jones doesn't land a single hit on Seagal. Kind of makes him a weak villain and not really a threat.

Same with Eric Bogosian in Under Siege 2.
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

RCMerchant

#12
I never cared for the shmuck.
Hell, even Chuck Norris got his ass kicked- and killed; of course it was Bruce Lee, but still!

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Alex

My boss was seriously into martial arts and competes at a reasonably high level. He said Norris and Seagal did have a match, but they did it in private with no witnesses and they've never told anyone who won.
Hail to thyself
For I am my own master
I am my own god
I require no shepherd
For I am no sheep.

RCMerchant

^ Bet Norris beat his ass. Because he can actually fight.
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
Slobber, Drool, Drip!
https://www.tumblr.com/ronmerchant