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Started by Alex, January 12, 2016, 04:20:29 AM

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Alex

QuoteNot everyone is happy with the choice of director for the yet-unnamed Star Wars: Episode IX. Some fans are asking Disney to replace Colin Trevorrow (Jurassic World) with the saga's original creator, George Lucas. The Change.org petition currently sits at roughly 17,000 signatures, with 25,000 as its next target.

Before you worry about a hypothetical "Star Wars: Episode IX - Binks Lives," keep in mind there's about zero percent chance this will happen. Lucas wasn't strong armed out of ownership by a bullying cartoon mouse and JJ Abrams (the latter of which has nothing to do with Episode IX anyway); he sold the rights in a contractual business deal. As he said in November, "I will go my way, and I'll let them go their way." This isn't exactly a new situation for Lucas either, considering he didn't direct The Empire Strikes Back nor Return of the Jedi.

But let's entertain this notion just a little bit. After all, we very nearly complimented the prequels, noting that Lucas (almost) wrote a great story. Assuming it could happen and having seen the Disney approach, would you want to see Lucas in the director's chair for the final chapter of the new trilogy?

Over the years I have heard Lucas critize many of the best parts of Star Wars (from Han shooting first through to not liking the lived in and battered look of the new movies against everything looking shiny and new as per the prequels), and I long ago came to the conclussion that Lucas just got really lucky with Star Wars. Am I alone here? Would other people seriously like to see him return to the franchise?

Hail to thyself
For I am my own master
I am my own god
I require no shepherd
For I am no sheep.

Trevor

Quote from: Dark Alex on January 12, 2016, 04:20:29 AM
Would other people seriously like to see him return to the franchise?

If that is true, then all I have to say is



Lucas made enough money off the sale of Lucasfilm to live on forever: he shouldn't come anywhere near Star Wars again.
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

Allhallowsday

I liked the first two, but can't claim to be a fan of any of them.  And I think his story line is... stoopid. 
If you want to view paradise . . . simply look around and view it!

Jim H

Quote from: Dark Alex on January 12, 2016, 04:20:29 AM
QuoteNot everyone is happy with the choice of director for the yet-unnamed Star Wars: Episode IX. Some fans are asking Disney to replace Colin Trevorrow (Jurassic World) with the saga's original creator, George Lucas. The Change.org petition currently sits at roughly 17,000 signatures, with 25,000 as its next target.

Before you worry about a hypothetical "Star Wars: Episode IX - Binks Lives," keep in mind there's about zero percent chance this will happen. Lucas wasn't strong armed out of ownership by a bullying cartoon mouse and JJ Abrams (the latter of which has nothing to do with Episode IX anyway); he sold the rights in a contractual business deal. As he said in November, "I will go my way, and I'll let them go their way." This isn't exactly a new situation for Lucas either, considering he didn't direct The Empire Strikes Back nor Return of the Jedi.

But let's entertain this notion just a little bit. After all, we very nearly complimented the prequels, noting that Lucas (almost) wrote a great story. Assuming it could happen and having seen the Disney approach, would you want to see Lucas in the director's chair for the final chapter of the new trilogy?

Over the years I have heard Lucas critize many of the best parts of Star Wars (from Han shooting first through to not liking the lived in and battered look of the new movies against everything looking shiny and new as per the prequels), and I long ago came to the conclussion that Lucas just got really lucky with Star Wars. Am I alone here? Would other people seriously like to see him return to the franchise?



I wouldn't mind seeing him return as a co-writer.  Inject more new ideas, just filter out the stupid ones.  He really did come up with a lot of great ideas.

But he's not a great director.

BoyScoutKevin

I think it is all up to him, because as far as I know, he has expressed no interest in directing any of the sequels. neither Episode IX nor the ones thereafter, and at this moment, my money is there will be Episodes after IX. For a number of reasons.

1st. The latest film is proving to be a cash cow. The top grossing film at the domestic box office with a take to date of over $800 million, and an international box office of $1.8 billion for 3rd place.

2nd. There are still stories out there to be told. I think someone said there's about, more or less, 10,000 years of history in the Star Wars Universe after Episode VII.

3rd. I keep hearing that the series should wrap up sometime in the mid 2020's. The only way that would happen, with Episode IX being released in 2019, is if there are 3 more episodes after IX.
Episode X in 2021
Episode XI in 2023.
Episode XII in 2025.

But . . .?! We shall see what we shall see.

Jim H

You have seen stuff on Rogue One, and the news about the other spinoffs?  Even if they just do spin-off films, they can keep doing those til they cease to be profitable, new episodes or not.

BoyScoutKevin

More thoughts that just reinforce previous thoughts.

4TH. Only if he is interested.
Because of the respect that he had for him, JJ went to George and asked him if he'd be interested in being involved in the making of Episode VII, and George's basic answer was "Thanks, but no thanks," and I haven't heard anything differently so far.

5TH. That's 17,000 people who don't know how business is done in Hollywood.
No, that's an exaggeration, but . . .?! Still . . .?! Maybe less than other places, but . . .?! business is still done in Hollywood on trust and a bit of pixie dust, backed up by a battery of lawyers.  So. you really, really don't want to fire anyone without justifiable cause, if only because, if he's smart, he has a "play or pay" deal, which means even if you fire him without just cause, you still have to pay him his agreed salary and percentage, and then you still have to find and pay someone else to direct and pay him or her, and the reason give is not a justifiable cause (IMHO.)

6TH. One is underestimating the influence that Disney has in making of the film. Yes, they have some influence, but . . .?! So far they maintain the smart hands off position. One would probably be better off petitioning President of Lucas Film Kathleen Kennedy, who probably has more influence on who will make the film than Disney. Not that she is any more likely to fire Colin than Disney is.

7TH. How much ever Episode VII finally makes at the box office, both domestically and internationally, by the end of its run at the box office. That'll be less than half of what it'll make in merchandise sales by the end of this year or 2016. And that is only in merchandise sales, and does not include other ancillary profits, which we'll talk about later. Thus, it behooves everyone to continue with episodes beyond VIII and IX, as long as they continue to be profitable, and, by which time, George may be interested once again in directing.

But . . .?! We'll see what we'll see.